gwind
RWS Contributor
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Post by gwind on Jun 3, 2010 21:45:00 GMT -5
Hamburg Saturday Afternoon?
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Post by David on Jun 5, 2010 6:13:21 GMT -5
Anyone headed to Ebay today? I might be there or head to fairhaven. Lets hear...
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Post by David on Jun 13, 2010 8:41:57 GMT -5
I have to just say that Sunday the 6th was one of the best days I have ever kited at Durand. The waves were actually peeling, smooth waves like you normally get at Hamburg. Maybe its just me (and Jason and I discussed this, he agreed) but I thought there were some legitimate 6-8 foot peaks from the troughs; the kind that as you are riding toward them and they start to break you go "Oh SH!T!!!" and head the other way as fast as you can. I got out Monday and Thursday as well for a weekly total of 9.5 hours on the water. I'm know I probably get some flack again but I don't see how as a whole windsurfing is it; it is so limited in the conditions you can ride in, tricks you can do, air you can catch, and is way more gear intensive. BTW I just bought a new 7.0 sail so I can get out and do a little blasting so I have not totally given up windsurfing. OK lets hear it...lol
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Post by Windydoug on Jun 14, 2010 22:18:19 GMT -5
David, In the end even Darth Vader realized the error of his ways in going to the dark side... It was so exciting, so convienient, so "bad boy"..........but in the end he relented.....and bought a new 7.0. Whoa, 9 hours of water time!!! Lynn made the same comment/observation about your Sunday at Durand. What brand 7.0 did you get? What board is still left from your liquidation sale? I just made a new addition to my wind quiver as well............  lol, WD |
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Post by David on Jun 18, 2010 8:46:39 GMT -5
Ahh yes, I went to long pond to sail but alas the dark side (always the more fun of the two) won out and I was kiting. I packed all my crap into my car the night before and what really struck me was the volume consumed by windsurfing gear compared to kite gear. Wow, I'd forgotten. I bought a Naish all terrain 7.0 for my starboard carve wood 131. I'm going to keep a 5.7, 6.2 or 6.3 and a 7.0 to use with that board. I also have a 70 liter starboard acid wood for higher wind with some old Zeta 2 sails but no mast to go with them so I'll probably throw them on Ebay. I like really like the speed and quick planing of the 131, although its big volume it turns quickly and just has a super comfy ride. Honestly don't expect I'll use it much but I can't be a hypocrite and not open my mind to being versatile when I keep trying to get people here to try kiting... ;D
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Post by mikeyz on Jun 18, 2010 17:01:56 GMT -5
"I don't see how as a whole windsurfing is it; it is so limited in the conditions you can ride in, tricks you can do, air you can catch, and is way more gear intensive." David that is funny you say that. I have friends here in SF Bay Area that have been windsurfing and kite boarding since these sports were invented. They have been saying your exact words only they were said about kiting. While I personally can't comment on most of what you have said I think I can comment on the tricks. There are sooOOOoo many fun tricks to learn on a windsurfer. You just need to try them. They aren't inaccessible. I'm not having a good session if I'm not getting wet on every reach. And yes I'm doing and trying more than planing jibes.
- Z
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Post by mikeyz on Jun 18, 2010 17:13:42 GMT -5
Oh yea and as for air. Boujmaa got over 60ft of stock air in that Maui jump off thing. And the difference between windsurfer air and kiter air is that we are actually affected by gravity (we aren't being pulled up and tea bagged down) which means we actually need to have some nads. lol. just kidding. It means it isn't quite as readily accessible to mortals or people that don't live near consistent nuking conditions.
p.s. sailboard guys. 4.4 and 5.0 have been my bread and butter ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D My 103L feels huge and floaty. Last week I broke out the 7.0 for the first time in a month and I could barely jibe it because it was so heavy.
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Post by David on Jun 19, 2010 9:26:31 GMT -5
Haha, Z its good to hear from you man, you must be getting d**n good. I agree that there are a ton of tricks you can do on a windsurfer, I would probably give up kiting if I could pull flakkas, spocks, shovits, push loops, rolls, and launch 20 foot airs off big ocean kickers all the time. The sad reality its not going to happen for me unless I move and spend all my time learning all those tricks. I love to windsurf. I love to kitesurf. I'm just saying that pulling a smooth backroll or poping a 20 foot air off a 2 foot kicker at Durand is reality when your kiting. Now I have my car packed with all my kiting AND windsurfing sh!t and I'm headed to Seneca. Peace out and we will finish this later...lol ;D
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Post by mikeyz on Jun 21, 2010 15:23:07 GMT -5
David it is good to hear from you too man. I know you love to travel and if you haven't visited the bay area I would highly suggest it. I live in Berkeley which is a good distance from the good coastal spots like Waddel and Davenport but it is only 2 or 3 miles from the Berkeley Marina launch. It is a pretty amazing thing to get home from work drive down my street hang a right, hang a left, and then drop in on a free Andy Brandt evening clinic. Everyone has been complaining that this is the worst year on record. I honestly can't imagine what a good year must be.
Last friday after left my little windsurfing/kiting rant I took the vanpool home, jumped in my car, hung right, a left, and then had myself a 2.5 hour beautiful-sunset-5.0-86L-small but jumpable-swell-session ;D ;D ;D ;D
Saturday started out with more 5.0 86L, then a long swim back to shore as the wind died down a bit. There was still some wind out there so I grabbed my trusty east coast 7.0 and the old mistral synchro you sold me and had a 2 hour slightly over powered session. I was the only person out and I sailed up wind out of the Berkeley embayment and out into the bay. I sailed to the Emeryville lauch (1.5 miles from home) when I realised I really should be carrying a radio when sailing that far. I headed home leaving behind more good wind. Blasting the whole time, pressure on the back foot, finding the smooth route, board super flat with a little upward pressure on the front foot.
Sunday was a 2.5 hour 103L 6.0 schlogg fest. I'm not complaining because there is definitely value in those sessions. A few of my friends have convinced me I'm more than ready to loop. (They say looping is much much easier than jibing). And they gave me some light wind looping homework. Sail along not planing on a beam reach, pull that back hand in, extend the front arm, give a little hop forward, let the sail pull you over the front, once you've started rotating you ball up pulling your back leg in tight (this uses the same physics figure skaters use to spin super fast), and last you fall on your back. Sploosh. I couldn't water start without some slight gear rearangement but you can definitely get a feel for the mechanics of a real loop at higher speeds.
I'd still have to say that I still haven't experienced anything like Durand or Hamburg out here. I guess I've been primarily sailing flatish places. The swell on a 5.0 day is like a 7.0 day on the great lakes. I guess that is why people are so focused on other aspects of their sailing. Either way I'll take it! Ok back to work!
- Z
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